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2nd Corinthians 7

2Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.


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2nd Cor. 7 videos-
https://youtu.be/eNG6bc43OVo
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=387636055733517&extid=2V03Dh5Y3dvoP7Mw
https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aocp2PkNEAGMj2tMupBeAPc1LohM

ON VIDEO
.Homeless story
.What is biblical separation?
.In the world- but not of it
.Christian recovery from addiction
.To be established- you must walk in righteousness
.Did Paul regret that he was so hard on the Corinthians?
.I think he did- then was glad for their response
.How did Titus comfort Paul?
.Christian correction - done in love- but needs to be done at times
.Interesting notes from John Calvin on this chapter [From the Geneva bible]

Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Jn. 20:17
For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
Heb. 2:10

PAST POSTS
[These are links and parts of my past teachings that relate in some way to today’s post- verses below]

1ST CORINTHIANS 7:1-15 Paul addresses divorce. It is interesting that Jesus himself actually raised the bar from the Old Covenant practice to the New. In most other areas he emphasized grace as opposed to law ‘the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath’ but in this area Jesus said ‘Moses made an exception under the law for divorce, but from the beginning this was not Gods plan’ and Jesus restricted divorce to the cause of adultery [fornication- actually the word for pornography] only. Here Paul gives some direction. First, you shouldn’t divorce. You also shouldn’t be married to an unbeliever. Well, what should happen to those who were unbelievers when they married, but now one is a believer? Paul says if the unbeliever is ‘pleased’ to stay in the union, then that’s fine. Well what does ‘pleased’ mean? If the unbeliever is physically abusing his spouse, then that doesn’t seem ‘pleasing’ to me. Paul will say if the unbeliever departs, let them go. The believer should not feel condemned by this. He/she had no control in this case. But if there is a divorce, let the one who left remain unmarried. So what happens if you were forced into it, can you re marry? Paul does not specifically say. He does say to the one who left the marriage, they should not remarry. Divorce is a tricky issue. When attending the fundamental Baptist church they taught that if one were divorced they could never be ‘a Pastor’ [even though no one was ‘a pastor’ in this way in the first century church!]. Many teach that Paul’s instructions on Bishops/Elders said a divorced person should not be an overseer. Paul actually said ‘they should be the husband of one wife’. This most certainly could simply be saying they shouldn’t be in a plural marriage. This was common in the first century, so you could take it this way. Overall I find it strange that someone could have been a murderer [Paul] or any other type of sinner, but the divorcee’ seems to be the only sinner that is excluded. The other problem is how much of ‘a believer’ were you at the time of your divorce. There have been well known preachers who initiated the divorce from their wives, they remarried and later wanted this to be treated as any other sin, just forgive and forget. The problem is if you were wise enough in the lord to have known better, then true repentance would entail making things right. Whether that’s reconciliation or simply remaining single, but it sure seems like these types of brothers who went into the whole remarriage thing with their eyes wide open, they should be held to a higher standard. Overall, we should not be in bondage to things that were out of our control. Those who were victimized and the partner left you, you should not be condemned for something that was out of your control. Believers who initiate the divorce from someone who was willing to stay in the marriage, they should not remarry. There have been too many cases where believers divorce other believers, without biblical grounds, and then remarry someone from the church. These situations are not permitted. If the believing spouse was simply ‘difficult to live with’ then that doesn’t cut it. In situations where there was actual physical abuse, well I don’t believe the Lord wants you to stay in the house under these circumstances. But the only biblical excuse for divorce, according to Jesus, is adultery. In all of these gray areas, wisdom must be applied. The high profile ministers who have initiated their divorces and remarried, without the proper biblical grounds, should not be simply ‘forgiven’ and permitted to continue in their public role in ministry. True forgiveness and restoration would entail some sort of repentance and a public change in the situation. Like Paul says ‘to the rest speak I, not the Lord’. I am giving you my opinion on some of this stuff, but I too think I have the Spirit of Christ.
 
(962)1ST CORINTHIANS 7:16-24 ‘Were you circumcised when you were called into the Christian life? Then don’t become uncircumcised’ [that would be quite a feat!] ‘Were you uncircumcised when called? Don’t get circumcised’. What’s Paul saying? Basically he is keeping the decrees that were made at the Jerusalem council [Acts 15]. He is stressing the importance of Christ’s spiritual kingdom. To the Jew, he is not saying ‘keep trying to become justified by the law and sacrifices’ but he is saying ‘I am not trying to wipe out your culture and heritage, I am trying to bring you into the fullness of what the Prophets have foretold’. This is Paul’s ongoing defense in the book of Acts ‘I stand condemned because I believe that what the prophets said would happen, did!’. Paul says the thing that matters is ‘the doing of Gods commandments’. When we studied Romans I showed how Paul did say ‘the hearers of the law are not justified, but the doers shall be’. Here again Paul stresses the importance of the Christian life being one of true conversion. Those who believe are changed and become doers of Gods law by nature. The mechanism of conversion is Faith, the outworking of that conversion is obedience. So even though Paul is not putting the law on the gentile converts, yet he does teach that they will by nature keep the law [Romans again]. Now he says ‘were you a slave when called? Seek not to become free. Were you free? Don’t become a slave’ and ‘be not the servants/slaves of men’. We actually have hit on this a few times in recent months. Once again Paul says ‘don’t see this new faith as an opportunity to mount a civil disobedience campaign’ but at the same time he makes it clear ‘don’t put yourself under servitude either!’ The New Testament does not justify the institution of slavery or racism! The basic ethos of this new kingdom is freedom from bondage, it was only a matter of time before this new movement would shake the foundations of society and uproot this evil. Make no mistake about it, the anti-slavery movement was instigated by the people of God [William Wilberforce, Charles Finney and many others].
 
(963)1ST CORINTHIANS 7: 25-40 let’s be a little unconventional today. This passage deals with Paul’s counsel on celibacy and marriage. The historic church has had a bad rap on this issue. It is common today to say the church devalued marriage [and sex] and therefore we should exalt it. Sometimes this attempt at trying to correct the perceived imbalance puts a stumbling block in the way of those who are truly called to live the single life. Though marriage is an honorable thing, a true gift from God, yet living the celibate life can also be considered a very noble thing. It is rare in contemporary evangelicalism to leave this option open. Paul does say this option is not only available, but a noteworthy calling! He also makes it clear that only those who are called to this single lifestyle should attempt it. The church should not force celibacy on people. Now, do our catholic brothers force it upon the Priests? In a way, yes. But don’t forget that no one is ‘forced’ into the priesthood. Some feel like the scandals of catholic priests who abused children can be blamed on forced celibacy. The problem with this idea is many protestant ministers have also fallen sexually, and they were not celibate! The point being we need to be careful when we brand any Christian denomination with an accusation. Now, Paul also makes an interesting statement that we need to look at. He says ‘for the present distress I give these guidelines’. Is it possible that Paul’s seeming harshness on marriage was due to the fact of some type of distress that he saw coming? Possibly the Neronic persecutions? If so, Paul could be saying ‘because of the upcoming severe persecution I recommend everyone just laying low for the time, if married, seek not to be single and vice a versa’. This is possible, we need to keep this in mind when reading this section of scripture. But most of all I think the modern evangelical church needs to retool her message in this area. Marriage and sex are good, God ordained these things in their proper place. But living single and celibate is also considered a very noble calling, we do not normally reflect this balance in the present atmosphere. Also as an aside, a few years back it was common to teach ‘the world/public schools have taken sex and taught it to our kids. They have usurped the job of the family/church’ while there is some truth to this, the problem was some well known TV evangelists began to discuss sex in the Sunday morning setting that was improper in a way [If you local Pastors who read this have done this, be assured I am not talking about you!]. I remember watching a national minister speak openly, with grandma’s and children in the service, and say ‘now speaking about sexual climax’ Yikes!! Just because the family/church dropped the ball on these issues, this doesn’t mean there are no barriers at all while dealing with these issues. Those who do this type of stuff seem to be saying ‘sex is not a dirty thing, therefore we need to bring it out into the open’ while this is true to a degree, there are also age appropriate subjects that should be taught in a private setting. If the church feels the need to delve into these subjects, we need to be careful that we are not crossing boundaries when doing it.
 
MORE PROOF FOR GOD- Okay, what’s up with ‘dark matter’? In the 20th century the amazing breakthroughs in science showed us that what we thought was a limited universe, was actually a growing universe that was expanding at a faster rate every day. The further out you got, the faster it was expanding. This discovery [Hubble] worked in harmony with Einstein’s theories. This discovery also created a problem. If the universe is so much more vast than previously thought to be, then the amount of known matter needed in the universe in order to maintain the proper gravitational force was not there. Basically you need so much matter to exist in order for this newly discovered expanding universe to hold together and function right. The problem is that the matter is not there![some say it is still not detected]. So the theory of ‘dark matter’ [unseen, undetected matter] has been floated. This invisible matter is supposedly the single greatest matter in existence, though we have no proof that even one tiny particle exists! Ahh, when stuff like this happens, we need to pay close attention. Why? Well some who defend the young earth theory of creation use this to back up their claim of a young universe. It’s kinda technical stuff, but this ‘dark matter’ has to be there to defend the old age theory [for some!]. Another problem is we have absolutely no proof that this dark matter exists. It is simply believed in because the naturalistic explanation demands it! Sort of like coming to a part in a puzzle where a piece doesn’t fit, so you simply make something fit. Now, the bible does teach that the vast universe is held together [a key role of so called dark matter] by Christ’s absolute power. The other explanation for how the vast universe is able to function smoothly, without the needed matter to create the huge amount of gravity, is that God himself is holding all things together by his omnipotence. In essence, we need God for this puzzle to fit. I am not saying the idea of dark matter is totally false, but as far as we know today, there is no proof that it exists. We as believers should not take an anti scientific stance on everything, to the contrary, true science always backs up the Christian world view [in general] but we also need to be suspicious when science floats an idea that can be explained by the existence of a creator. If the idea is simply out there, with no proof at all [the multi-verse] then we certainly have the right to challenge whether the whole thing is a bunch of ‘dark [invisible] matter’!

I quoted from Galatians 6 on the video [2nd Cor. 7] Here’s my complete study-
https://ccoutreach87.com/galatians-links-2020/

 https://ccoutreach87.com/protestant-reformation-luther/
https://ccoutreach87.com/christian-recovery-from-addiction-long-version/ [Talked about this on the video]
2nd Corinthians- Links

Chapter 1
https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2020/07/sunday-sermon-text_12.html?m=0
https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/07/12/sunday-sermon-text-45/
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1129014278838173696?referrer=ccoutreach87
https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/efamx3lej2xc7qxeiypqcq
https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/sunday-sermon4915463
https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/sunday-sermon-124
https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/sunday-sermon-23
https://johnchiarello.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/48746086-sunday-sermon
https://gab.com/Ccoutreach87/posts/104500654638626975
https://medium.com/@johnchiarello/sunday-sermon-d9e7fd58d11f?source=---------2------------------
https://steemit.com/bible/@ccoutreach/3zmee5-sunday-sermon
http://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/sunday-sermon-34253d13-77ee-4dbb-a9c0-d16cac3c5142
https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/sunday-sermon-121
http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2176132/sunday-sermon
https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2020/07/12/sunday-sermon/
http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2020/07/sunday-sermon.html

Chapter 2
https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2020/08/sunday-sermon-text.html?m=0
https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/08/02/sunday-sermon-text-47/
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1136635064196055040?referrer=ccoutreach87
https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/5yrhkdf1wuf0x7n1xice3g
https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/sunday-sermon2770276
https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/sunday-sermon-126
https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/sunday-sermon-25
https://johnchiarello.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/48849165-sunday-sermon
https://snacpia.com/link/feed/?idx=217830
https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/sunday-sermon-xdrxwxx
https://share.par.pw/post/537c71bc6c5347039b281105c3d6aca1
https://gab.com/Ccoutreach87/posts/104619707250871955
https://medium.com/@johnchiarello/sunday-sermon-e94b2c16d064?source=---------2------------------
https://steemit.com/bible/@ccoutreach/vyggg-sunday-sermon
http://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/sunday-sermon-ca98f17f-b264-4bf8-8006-bdaaad1c2d15
https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/sunday-sermon-123
http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2193930/sunday-sermon
https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2020/08/02/sunday-sermon/
http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2020/08/sunday-sermon.html


Chapter 3
https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2020/06/sunday-sermon-text_21.html?m=0
https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/06/21/sunday-sermon-text-42/
https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/sunday-sermon4998591
http://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/sunday-sermon-121
https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/sunday-sermon-20
https://johnchiarello.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/48637496-sunday-sermon
https://vk.com/wall533663718_4108
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1121406032009469952?referrer=ccoutreach87
https://gab.com/Ccoutreach87/posts/104381777807592789
https://medium.com/@johnchiarello/sunday-sermon-39d49dc0f7de?source=---------2------------------
https://steemit.com/bible/@ccoutreach/emyd5-sunday-sermon
http://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/sunday-sermon-ad34ccd7-aab9-4281-bb21-a443abcfb371
https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/sunday-sermon-118
http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2157898/sunday-sermon
https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2020/06/21/sunday-sermon-text/

Chapter 4
https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2020/08/2nd-corinthians-4-text.html?m=0
https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/08/11/2nd-cor-4-text/
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1139881550783184896?referrer=ccoutreach87
https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/g1mu3okcuioivr0ognwtcw
https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/2nd-cor-4
https://johnchiarello.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/48899156-2nd-cor-4
https://snacpia.com/link/feed/?idx=219069
https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/2nd-cor-4-xolwzek
https://share.par.pw/post/db448124ed01498d871fd59ed8482898
https://gab.com/Ccoutreach87/posts/104670411716420924
https://medium.com/@johnchiarello/2nd-corinthians-4-4f89d4740b27?source=---------2------------------
https://steemit.com/bible/@ccoutreach/2nd-cor-4
http://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/2nd-cor-4
https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/2nd-cor-4
http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2201667/2nd-cor-4
https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2020/08/11/2nd-cor-4/
http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2020/08/2nd-cor.4.html

Chapter 5
https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2020/08/2nd-cor-5-text.html?m=0
https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/08/25/2nd-cor-5-text/
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1144955197949075456?referrer=ccoutreach87
https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/nv2ggybtprpsifxd8jx9qq
https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/2nd-cor-5
https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/2nd-cor-5
https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/2nd-cor-5
https://johnchiarello.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/48964452-2nd-cor-5
https://snacpia.com/link/feed/?idx=220863
https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/2nd-cor-5-xdrlmjv
https://share.par.pw/post/b81b6e4229be497da5d2db6e0afd839d
https://gab.com/Ccoutreach87/posts/104749736269196325
https://medium.com/@johnchiarello/2nd-cor-5-7564c730aab1?source=---------2------------------
https://steemit.com/bible/@ccoutreach/2nd-cor-5
http://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/2nd-cor-5
https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/2nd-cor-5
http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2214552/2nd-cor-5
https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2020/08/25/2nd-cor-5/
http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/2020/08/2nd-cor.5.html

2nd Cor. 6
https://corpuschristioutreachministries.blogspot.com/2020/09/2nd-cor-6-text.html?m=0
https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/09/10/2nd-cor-6-text/
https://ello.co/ccoutreach87/post/upyzlsffd5cswycz-fecow
https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1150771822111387648?referrer=ccoutreach87
https://ccoutreach87.webstarts.com/blog/post/2nd-cor-6
https://corpusoutreach.weebly.com/most-recent-posts/2nd-cor-6
https://ccoutreach87.wixsite.com/mysite/post/2nd-cor-6
https://wt.social/post/cvsp0f65332469862006
https://johnchiarello.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/49058811-2nd-cor-6
https://snacpia.com/link/feed/?idx=222947
https://www.publish0x.com/ccoutreach87/2nd-cor-6-xoldnyz
https://share.par.pw/post/ac8e3590948847b78e92d68b0491dbc1
https://gab.com/Ccoutreach87/posts/104840600887833753
https://medium.com/@johnchiarello/2nd-cor-6-55c4a07937a5?source=---------2------------------
https://steemit.com/bible/@ccoutreach/2nd-cor-6
http://ccoutreach87.mystrikingly.com/blog/2nd-cor-6
https://www.plurk.com/p/nzz7w4
https://ccoutreach87.site123.me/blog/2nd-cor-6
http://ccoutreach87-1.mozello.com/blog/params/post/2230211/2nd-cor-6
https://ccoutreach87.jimdofree.com/2020/09/10/2nd-cor-6-text/
http://ccoutreach.over-blog.com/

)ROMANS 9: 1-8 Paul returns to an earlier theme ‘Christ came, as pertaining to the flesh, in response to the covenants that God made with Israel’ [my paraphrase!] Paul says that natural Israel played a very important role in the coming of Messiah. He was [is] the fulfillment of the prophecies that came as a result of Gods interaction with ‘the commonwealth of Israel’. Now Paul again says ‘they are not all Israel, which are of Israel, but “in Isaac shall thy seed be called’”. Understand something here, Paul is not teaching ‘another’ natural lineage to Christ. The mistake of the worldwide church of God [Herbert Armstrong] which teaches British Israelism, trying to trace the natural lineage of Europeans and saying ‘these are the lost tribes’. Paul is simply saying ‘those who are of the Law, the natural tribe of Israel [Jews] are not automatically counted as ‘the seed’ [children] but those who ‘are of promise’. Paul also uses this in Galatians 3 and 4. ‘Of promise’ is simply saying ‘those who have been born of Gods Spirit [Jew or Gentile] are the children that God promised to Abraham’ he is the father of ‘many nations’. All who would believe. These themes are building upon Paul’s earlier theology in this letter. This letter [Romans] has a little more ‘weight’ than say a pastoral epistle [Timothy, Titus]. Now, I am not saying it is ‘more inspired’ but I want you to see that even in the book of Acts you see Paul place special emphasis on ‘I must make it to Rome’! Paul fully realizes that this letter will be read among the believers and Jews at Rome. Rome is the capitol city of the Empire. He wants the early believers to understand the role and purpose of God for Israel. Paul’s efforts are being seen by some Jewish believers [Jerusalem] as antagonistic. Paul wants to make it clear that he was not trying to start some type of movement that rejected natural Israel. At the same time he wants natural Israel ‘my kinsman according to the flesh’ to receive their Messiah! So in this context Romans is a theological treatise saying ‘God wants to bring both Jew and Gentile together as one new man in Christ [Ephesians]’. When he argues ‘they that are the children of the flesh ARE NOT THE CHILDREN OF GOD[verse 8] but the children of the promise are counted for the seed’ he is simply saying ‘all people, both Jews and Gentiles [which includes all races that are ‘non Jews’ even Arabs!] can partake of this free gift by grace’. The promise is to all who ‘will believe’. Some sites- see the rest here https://ccoutreach87.com/2020/10/01/2nd-cor-7-text/
(849)ROMANS 9:9-23 now we get into predestination. Paul uses the example of Jacob and Esau [I